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  •  Narrative: The Life and Legacy of Elizabeth Comber

     Narrative: The Life and Legacy of Elizabeth Comber

    This is a brief narrative of the life of Elizabeth Comber, one of my maternal great-grandmothers. There is more to add…

     Early Life

    Elizabeth Comber, born on 20 May 1853 in Mulgoa, New South Wales, was the daughter of Edward Comber and Elizabeth Mackey. Her baptism took place on 24 June 1853 at St Thomas Parish in Mulgoa. The family resided on the Fernhill estate, where Edward worked as a storekeeper. Her mother, Elizabeth Mackey, was born in 1831 in Macquarie Harbour, Tasmania, and had an eventful early life, being orphaned after her father, Sgt. Edward Mackey, passed away in India. She later emigrated to New South Wales in 1850 as part of the Irish Famine Orphan Scheme.

    Elizabeth’s childhood coincided with pivotal moments in Australian colonial history, including the gold rush era. She spent part of her early life on the Turon goldfields, living with her aunt and uncle, Dr. Walker, a government medical officer. These experiences left Elizabeth with vivid memories of the bustling goldfields and the excitement of mounted gold escorts.

     First Marriage: A Tumultuous Start

    At the young age of 13, Elizabeth married John Thomas Rowley on 2 January 1867 at the Coonamble Courthouse. This early marriage proved problematic. In 1882, John was arrested for bigamy after marrying another woman, Sarah Ann Richards, while still married to Elizabeth. This likely contributed to the end of their union.

     A Relationship with John Fitzsimmons

    Elizabeth entered a de facto relationship with John Fitzsimmons between 1868 and 1872. Fitzsimmons, born in 1843 in Leicester, England, immigrated to Australia aboard the Ben Nevis in 1855. Together, they had two daughters:

    1. Elizabeth Hannah Fitzsimmons (b. 1869, Quambone).

    2. Matilda Lillas Fitzsimmons (b. 1871, Dungog).

    This relationship was complicated by societal norms and legal constraints, as Elizabeth was still legally married to Rowley. Historical speculation suggests that Fitzsimmons may have been a controversial figure, described in police records as a labourer and boxer involved in various incidents. John was eventually convicted in 1886 of the manslaughter of another of his de factos, Sarah Jane Beckingham.

     Second Marriage: Building a Legacy with Robert Hardy

    Elizabeth married Robert Hardy on 24 February 1887 in Dangar Village, Narrabri. Hardy, born in 1833 in Sydney, was a grazier and landowner. Together, they built a prosperous life, managing properties such as “Mollie View” and “Bell’s Mount.” They had seven children:

    1. Arthur Ernest May HARDY (b. 1876, Gunnedah).

    2. Alice Amelia Hardy (b. 1882, Narrabri).

    3. Isabella Sarah Hardy (b. 1885, Narrabri).

    4. Andrew Robert Hardy (b. 1887, Narrabri).

    5. Percival James Hardy (b. 1889, Narrabri).

    6. Jessie Teresa Hardy (b. 1891, Narrabri).

    7. Olive Blanch Hardy (b. 1893, Narrabri).

    Robert Hardy passed away in 1907, leaving Elizabeth to manage their properties and care for their children.

     Later Life and Legacy

    Elizabeth spent her later years in “Rose Cottage” on Maitland Street, Narrabri, which she converted into a nursing home. She died on 21 May 1927 from heart disease and was buried in Narrabri Cemetery.

    Elizabeth’s life story reflects the complexities of colonial Australia, marked by immigration, marriage controversies, and the challenges of pioneering life. Her descendants spread across New South Wales, contributing to the development of communities like Narrabri, Dungog, and Coonamble.

     Table of Individuals, Events, and Places

     Individuals                                                                                                                             

     Elizabeth Comber  Born 20 May 1853, Mulgoa; married John Rowley (1867), de facto with John Fitzsimmons, married Robert Hardy.  
     Edward Comber     Father, born 1820, Spitalfields, England; storekeeper; died 1900, Armidale.                          
     Elizabeth Mackey  Mother, born 1831, Tasmania; orphaned; emigrated to NSW (1850); died 1880, Bundella.                 
     John Rowley       First husband; charged with bigamy (1882).                                                           
     John Fitzsimmons  De facto partner; father of two daughters; controversial figure.                                     
     Robert Hardy      Second husband; grazier and landowner; died 1907, Narrabri.                                          

     Events                                                                                                                                    

     Birth and Baptism Born and baptized in Mulgoa, 1853.                                                                   
     Gold Rush Era     Early life on Turon diggings, experiencing gold escorts.                                             
     First Marriage    Married John Rowley at 13 (1867); ended after bigamy charges.                                        
     De Facto Partner  Relationship with Fitzsimmons (1868–1872).                                                          
     Second Marriage   Married Robert Hardy (1887); built a legacy in Narrabri.                                            
     Property Legacy   Managed properties: Mollie View, Bell’s Mount.                                                      
     Later Life        Ran Rose Cottage as a nursing home; died in 1927.                                                   

    Places                                                                                                                                      

     Mulgoa            Birthplace and baptism site.                                                                        
     Turon Goldfields  Early residence during gold rush.                                                                   
     Coonamble         First marriage location (1867).                                                                     
     Narrabri          Long-term residence; properties and later life nursing home.                                        
     Dungog            Residence during relationship with Fitzsimmons.                                                     
     Quambone          Birthplace of Elizabeth Hannah Fitzsimmons (1869).                                                 

    This narrative ties together the rich tapestry of Elizabeth Comber’s life and legacy, clarifying confusing elements such as her multiple relationships and the socio-historical context of her experiences.

  • Timeline for EDWARD COMBER b1820

    As previously seen, Edward COMBER, one of my 2nd Great Grand Fathers, was born around 1820 in Spitalfields/Smithfield, London to James COMBER and Elisabeth Lowe.

    https://wordpress.com/post/genimagus.wpcomstaging.com/201 https://wordpress.com/post/genimagus.wpcomstaging.com/187

    Here’s a Timeline for his life:

  • James Comber – NOT a nice man…

    I spent some more time researching my Comber family and I was saddened to find these entries in TROVE, the Australian digitised newspaper archive run by the National Library of Australia. My third great-grandfather James Robert Comber was apparently NOT a nice man.

    The Sydney Morning Herald – Tues 30 Oct 1855 – Page 5 – CENTRAL POLICE COURT

    James Comber was charged with having violently assaulted Elisabeth, his wife. Complainant deposed that on last Wednesday night, or rather one o’clock on Tuesday morning, after she and the rest of the family were in bed, the defendant, her husband, came home drunk, and called for a light; she went downstairs with a light to him, when without any provocation he struck her several blows with his fist, and once with the candlestick; she was violently knocked down by him, and the screams of her family brought the police to the house, and defendant was taken away; they had been thirty-eight years married, twenty of which they had been in the colony; he had never supported her since the first three months after their marriage – neither a dress nor a loaf of bread had one fo their children had of his purchasing or earning, nor a week’s rent had he ever paid; whether he ever worked she could not tell; if he did he drank the money. Committed for trial.

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    The Sydney Morning Herald – Thurs 1 Nov 1855 – Page 5 – CENTRAL POLICE COURT

    James Comber, charged with having committed a violent assault upon Elisabeth his wife (the particulars of which were given in Tuesday’s Herald), was brought up, pursuant to a remand at his own request, as he alleged, for the purpose of calling witnesses to contradict some of his wife’s statements, but had no witnesses to favor his cause. He was found guilty of assaulting his wife, under the late Act for the more effectual punishment of assaults upon women and children, as sentenced to be imprisoned for one month, at the end of which time to enter into recognizances to keep the peace or to be imprisoned for a further term of a month.

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    Empire – Thurs 1 Nov 1855 – Page 5 – CENTRAL POLICE COURT – WEDNESDAY

    James Comber was charged with committing a violent assault upon his wife, Elizabeth Comber. From the evidence it appeared that the couple had been married for thirty-eight years, twenty of which they have passed in the colony’ the defendant had for several years depended on the exertions of his wife and family for his living, and was continually drinking; on Wednesday evening, he returned in a state of intoxication to his house in Goulburn-street, and conducted himself very violently; about one o’clock the defendant called to his wife to bring him a light; she did so, and he then assaulted her in a savage manner; he struck her repeatedly, and knocked her against the foot of the bed; the family were aroused, and geve prisoner into the custody of Serjeant Taylor; the woman was so greatly injured that she was unable to attend at the Police Office until Monday; her face was much bruised, and she complainedof pains in the spine and side; she was accommodated with a chair, while giving evidence. The defendant denied the charge, and at his request the case was remanded, in order to procure the attendance of his daughters, but it appeard that they had not been witnesses of the assault. The Bench found him guilty, and sentenced him to be imprisoned for one month, and kept to hard labour; at the expiration of that period to find surities that he keep the peace towards his wife for three months, or in default, to go to gaol for one month.

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    Bell’s Life in Sydney and Sporting Reviewer – Sat 3 Nov 1855 – Page 3 – POLICE PICKINGS

    Caution to Home Tyrants – a huge compound of half-man, half-brute, named James Comber, was on Wednesday convicted of a cruel assault upon the person of Elizabeth his wife, by violently striking her with his fists and a heavy candlestick, thereby knocking her down and inflicting most serious injuries upon her person. The poor woman stated that she had been married to the defendant for thirty-eight years, during the last twenty of which they had lived in this colony. Since the first three months of their marriage, he had given neither her nor his children, a dress or a loaf of bread, or paid a single week’s rent. She did not know if he ever worked; but if he did, his money went to the public-house. This noble-hearted fellow was dealt with under the late Act for the more effectual punishment of assaults upon women and children, and was sentenced to one month’s imprisonment with hard labour, at the expiration of that term to enter into recognizances to keep the peace towards his miserable wife, or to be imprisoned for an additional month.

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    James was born about 1796-1798 (based on the NSW Gaol Description and Entry Books in 1845 and 1849), in England. He and wife Elisabeth married in 1815 at St Luke’s Finsbury. Ostensibly a Silk Weaver, there were two stints in the Workhouse for Elisabeth and the children until James enlisted in the 50th Regiment of Foot at the age of 30 on 24 Feb 1826. The Regiment served in Ireland and acted as Convict guards on transport ships to NSW. James, Elisabeth and their family arrived in NSW in 1834 on the ship BLENHEIM. James was discharged from the Regiment on 31 May 1836 while stationed in Windsor, NSW. Besides the mention of James in the Gaol Description books and an announcement of daughter Matilda’s marriage in 1863, there is no sign of James or of his death.

  • Edward COMBER b1820 Spitalfields

    It has only taken two years to finally find Edward COMBER b1820 in Spitalfields, Middlesex, England!

    Edward is my 2ndGreatGrandfather, and he has been an elusive man, to say the least.

    Over the years I have been searching, I have found numerous mentions of Edward but with conflicting information. The worst situation is the conflation of two men (Edward COMBER and Edward COMER) into one “super-Edward” who appears to have two wives and families over 200kms apart (please refer my post “Edward COMBER vs Edward COMER” for information I found in 2015).

    I was recommended to hire a Genealogical Researcher in the UK, which I did in August 2017. Rita has been quite diligent and has uncovered some of Edward’s secrets!!!

    Edward was indeed born in Spitalfields in/around 1820. While there is no Baptismal Registration found, as yet, there is a Workhouse entry for Edward aged 4, and his family. Yes, I have a family for Edward – I am so happy!

    Edward was born to James Comber and his wife Elisabeth. Edward had an elder brother, James Robert born 03 Nov 1818 while the family was living in Cock Lane, Smithfield, Middlesex, England which is very near Spitalfields. A sister, Elizabeth,  was born to the family in December 1824 and another sister, Ann, in/around 1827.

    Father James Comber was apprenticed as a weaver, but there are no Guild Records available that show he actually became a weaver. What we do know now is that James senior enlisted in the 50th Regiment of Foot (also known as Queen’s Own) in 1826. Brother James Robert also enlisted in the 50th Regiment of Foot in 1832, as a Drummer. [Refer my post “James Comber – NOT a nice man…“]

    The family moved with the Regiment, firstly to Ireland, then to NSW where they arrived in 1835 on the ship BLENHEIM as Guards on the Convict Transport. The Regiment was stationed in Windsor, just north of Sydney.

    Edward also enlisted in the 50th Regiment of Foot once arrived in Windsor in October 1835.

    Father James was discharged from the 50th Regiment on 31 May 1836 and he and Elisabeth apparently remained in NSW. Another daughter, Matilda, was born in NSW in 1837.

    Meanwhile, the 50th Regiment departed NSW for India, being stationed in Cawnpore (present name Kanpur) in Uttar Pradesh. Both brothers fought in the Gwalior Campaign in December 1843. Sadly, brother James Robert died in May 1844 in Cawnpore, and Edward was discharged from the 50th Regiment while stationed in Chinsurah & Loodianah in November 1845.

    Edward was back in NSW by 1849, where he applied for an “Irish Famine Orphan” with the NSW Colonial Secretary.

    He was obviously granted an orphan, as he and Elizabeth Mackey were married in Sydney in 1851!

    So – there he is – Edward COMBER – found him, at last!!!

  • Edward COMBER vs Edward COMER

    For such a long time, I have been looking into the COMBER family in NSW.

    I was so happy to find a lot of information on the internet about the man my 2Greats Grandmother, Elizabeth Mackie (also Mackay, McKay, McGee – lots of variations) married in 1851, in Sydney, New South Wales.

    I’m of the impression, now, that, looking at research results on sites like Ancestry and MyHeritage, people have tied what I believe to be two different men together to form one “mega-man”.

    My guy is Edward COMBER, died 1900 in Armidale. Edward Comber married Elizabeth Mackie/Mackay in 1851. They lived in Mulgoa, at Fernhill, for the remainder of the 1850s then moved north and their descendants are found in Muswellbrook, Tamworth, Coonabarabran, Narrabri – all over the north of New South Wales.

    It is thought that Edward COMBER was born in or near Spitalfields on 20 Dec 1820. At least, that is what my Grandmother said! Sadly, I have not been able to find any reference to COMBERs in that area for and around that date. I have, however, found an Edward born 1822, and a family called LE COMBER.

    Edward and Elizabeth (Mackay) COMBER had the following children:

    • Edward Comber (1852 – 1927) married Margaret Janet Johnstone
    • Elizabeth Comber (1853 – 1927) married Robert Hardy
    • James Coomber (1855 – 1927) married Matilda Dewson
    • Agnis Comber (c1856 – ?)
    • John William Mackay Comber (1857 – 1941) married Annie Barnes
    • Ann Tereasa Comber (1858 – 1939) married James Walter Buckley
    • Sarah Amelia Comber (1860 – 1941) married Thomas Leonard
    • George Westby Walker Comber (1862 – 1945) married Anna Maria Chilvers
    • Matilda Comber (1863 – 1867)
    • Mary Jane Comber (1865 – 1930) married Henry Chadband
    • George Comber (1867 – 1867)
    • William Henry Comber (1868 – 1945)
    • Margaret Louisa Comber (1872 – 1953)
    • and an un-named baby boy

    The other fellow is Edward COMER – he and his wife Ann (nee O’Rafferty) arrived in 1841 as Bounty Immigrants from Galway, Ireland per the ship RUNNYMEDE. Edward was born in/around 1816 in Ballynakill, Galway, Ireland and married Ann around 1840 in Galway.

    They had the following children in the Mudgee area:

    • Bridget Theresa Comer (1842 – 1934) married James Edward Callaghan (1838 – 1898)
    • Thomas Comer (1843 – ?) married Ellen Palmer
    • Michael Comer (1846 – 1918) married Emily A Catalin (Catabino)
    • Maria Comer (1848 – 1919) married John Boyling
    • Edward Comer (1854 – 1874)
    • John Henry Comer (1856 – 1936) married Mary Jane Johnas
    • Rebecca Comer (1859 – 1901) married James Ritchie

    The COMERs settled and lived in the Mudgee area until their deaths.

    I have proved, just recently (19 July 2015), that these are two separate men, after a visit to the Mudgee Family History Group to view their records for the area.

    So, my belief is that there is no way that one man could father 20+ children to two women over 200kms apart has been successfully supported!!!

    I am hoping that someone, somewhere, is looking into my Edward COMBER, too, and am happy to share my info to further the Comber family!

    UPDATE! – 2017-11-15 – Please refer to genimagus.wordpress.com/2017/11/15/edward-comber-b1820-spitalfields/

  • Sgt Edward MACKAY (c1800-c1842) (originally published as a Page on this site in March 2009)

    Sgt Edward Mackay (also: Mackie, Mackey, McGee and other variants) is thought to have been born c1800 in County Monaghan, Ireland (possibly in Trim).

    He enlisted in the 63rd Regiment and was eventually posted at Macquarie Harbour, Van Diemen’s Land (now Tasmania), where his daughter Elizabeth was baptised in 1832.

    The 63rd Regiment was reassigned to India (thought to be around Bombay/Poona) c 1835-6.

    Edward is thought to have died at sea, between 1836-1840.

    He had married Ann, and they had 3 known daughters:

    • Mary Jane, who married Robert Devlin Smyth
    • Elizabeth, who married Edward Comber
    • Sarah

    Edward is also thought to have been married prior to Ann – possibly to a Mary and also possibly had a son, William John Mackey.

    I am looking forward to researching him at the National Archives in Kew, sooner rather than later!